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Posted by: Kingdom of Steel Sep 12 2017, 04:52 PM

Greatings, Community.

I dont know what happened, the map started and 4 seconds later i got kicked for "Racism"? Please, can anybody explain me this? The map before i use the votekicking system and wrote some replics, but racism....? No, i am sorry but i am confused. How long is my ban and when can i play again on your server?

Thanks.


Posted by: Raven Sep 12 2017, 06:45 PM

Hello Kingdom of Steel

It was me that banned you.
A few players reported you for racist language, and I was shown a screenshot.

As it was told to me, you were votekicking anyone Turkish in the server, as well as saying some things like "its full of turkish idiots here".
While I understand it's frustrating if everyone in chat is speaking a language that you don't understand, it doesn't mean it's okay to respond in a racist manner.

One of our main rules clearly says no racism, shown every time upon joining the server.

Posted by: Marsche Sep 12 2017, 07:39 PM

I've been getting reports of you constantly votekicking people you don't like, why is that?

Posted by: MonkeyFiend Sep 12 2017, 07:45 PM

jebus, if I vote kicked everyone I didn't like the server would be empty tongue.gif

Posted by: Sir Robin (not so brave) Sep 12 2017, 09:18 PM

Oh MonkeyFiend! I thought you like me :'( </3

Posted by: Steelshanks Sep 12 2017, 11:52 PM


Posted by: Kingdom of Steel Sep 13 2017, 07:06 AM

Greatings, Raven,

I thank you for your quick response and would not like to justify my behavior here. It was a small dispute between kundalini, kronos and myself; Previously, kundalini, probably in jest, wrote a few "Erdogan Spams". This went a bit too far so that the multiple of the players kicked him out after my vote.
There were a few insults to my address on the part of the player "kronos" and that was it. I answered with the unsightly sentence "full of turkish idiots here".
I'm sorry to have written these words and it will not happen again, I promise.
To the accusation of racism: I do not know any hatred for other peoples or skin colors, unfortunately or fortunately, I must confess that all political matters do not matter to me.
But, I am aware that my words could be interpreted as racism in chat, and I would like to apologize for that.
My question, may I hope to play again on your server?

My Identifikation: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198363903286/


Thank you.

Posted by: Bucket Sep 13 2017, 08:06 AM

That avatar is exactly the same as Tanz. Level 0 account, chivalry only game on the account. I'm fairly sure this is Tanz on a smurf account. He has a history of it http://www.sneakymonkeys.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2913, again new account with only chivalry on it.

I reverse google imaged your steam avatar.


And it links me to this website in German,


Funny enough they even had the same name


again the person with the exact same avatar and around the same age and location as Tanz. To further prove my point here is his current steam account http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198052691704/ and he has an avatar of ''Manowar'' the name of the forum tongue.gif

Here is a screenshot in case he changes it



On the German forum it is stated that he lives in Würzburg and on our forum it says he is from Neurenberg. Let's go on Google Maps and see how close those two places are shall we?




You even type exactly the same as him ;

http://www.sneakymonkeys.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3018
http://www.sneakymonkeys.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2961
http://www.sneakymonkeys.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2913
http://www.sneakymonkeys.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2889
http://www.sneakymonkeys.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2912



Seem rather a coincidence right? Probably not, Tanz you are truly dumb as shite, you fucking donkey. Lmfao!


MF can you do me a favour and double check it please just to be sure. biggrin.gif


Posted by: =Mi-Molles= Guytoune Sep 13 2017, 09:06 AM

Wow, what an investigation !


Posted by: Nexton Sep 13 2017, 09:53 AM

Looks like... coolsunglasses.gif ...you get to kick the Bucket.

Posted by: Kingdom of Steel Sep 13 2017, 12:09 PM

Bucket,

A simple question: Will you ever learn to judge people according to their behavior and, if necessary, condemn them?
I think maybe you will learn this at some point, but one thing I already know what you will never learn, namely, to insult you strange persons. You do not know me and have never seen me, I am a stranger to you; and as far as I remember, I did not trouble you.

"you are truly dumb as shite, you fucking donkey. Lmfao!"

This where your words according to my adress, if an Admin is here i will report this.

Posted by: Bucket Sep 13 2017, 12:47 PM

QUOTE (Kingdom of Steel @ Sep 13 2017, 01:09 PM) *
Bucket, A simple question: Will you ever learn to judge people according to their behavior and, if necessary, condemn them?


Nah.

QUOTE (Kingdom of Steel @ Sep 13 2017, 01:09 PM) *
I think maybe you will learn this at some point, but one thing I already know what you will never learn, namely, to insult you strange persons.


I'm sorry but have we met before? You're making it sound as if we had several of these types of conversations in the past. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE (Kingdom of Steel @ Sep 13 2017, 01:09 PM) *
I am a stranger to you; and as far as I remember, I did not trouble you.


You troubled our players on our servers and broke (some of) our server rules. As admins, we took the necessary actions seeing how I am part of the admin team that would explain my involvement.

QUOTE (Kingdom of Steel @ Sep 13 2017, 01:09 PM) *
"you are truly dumb as shite, you fucking donkey. Lmfao!"


That was directed at Tanz, but since you took it personal one can only assume that I was right and you are Tanz. Congrats you're even more of an idiot than I previously thought.

QUOTE (Kingdom of Steel @ Sep 13 2017, 01:09 PM) *
if an Admin is here i will report this.










Posted by: The Malefic Trout Sep 13 2017, 01:10 PM

QUOTE (Kingdom of Steel @ Sep 13 2017, 01:09 PM) *
I think maybe you will learn this at some point, but one thing I already know what you will never learn, namely, to insult you strange persons.


QUOTE (Raven @ Sep 12 2017, 07:45 PM) *
As it was told to me, you were votekicking anyone Turkish in the server, as well as saying some things like "its full of turkish idiots here".


Oh boy.

That's pretty hypocritical of you.

Posted by: Bucket Sep 13 2017, 01:15 PM

Careful Trout, he will report you to an

ADMIN
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Posted by: Kingdom of Steel Sep 13 2017, 02:46 PM

A word still to your address, Bucket: you are not worthy here as an Admin continue to occur. I will explain my point of view to Monkey Fiend and ask him to curtail your competencies as an administrator.
I'm not "Tanz"; we have been friends since our time together at the University of Würzburg.
And, Bucket, I do not expect any further statements from you here at my address, no doubt you will not meet this expectation as usual.
I wrote to "Raven" and asked her for an opinion, that's ALL.

Posted by: Kingdom of Steel Sep 13 2017, 02:51 PM

The Malefic Trout,

in contrast to the so-called Admin "Bucket", I have already apologized for my words. I like to do it here and to your address, my words were a shame and I'm sorry.
I have nothing against people from Turkey, I would like to say clearly.
But I think you've already understood me.

Posted by: Bucket Sep 13 2017, 04:17 PM

QUOTE (Kingdom of Steel @ Sep 13 2017, 03:46 PM) *
I'm not "Tanz"


QUOTE (Kingdom of Steel @ Sep 13 2017, 03:46 PM) *
And, Bucket, I do not expect any further statements from you here at my address, no doubt you will not meet this expectation as usual.


You're not Tanz yet you keep referring to things in the past and out of personal experience while a few posts ago you told me that I am a stranger to you.

I am not Bucket, I am Bouquet, his French cousin. Hon hon hon!


Posted by: Steelshanks Sep 13 2017, 08:13 PM

YOU CANT FIND ME BUCKET!

Posted by: MonkeyFiend Sep 14 2017, 08:18 AM

I've chosen not to read the posts after Tanz was ousted. As far as I'm concerned he's still banned, so there's little more to say.

Assuming Tanz with random accounts is becoming a problem, we could just block the entire ipbcc20ec1.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de range. It might however effect a few other users, but would essentially mean Tanz could generate as many family share or alt accounts as he likes but would only be able to connect via a different ISP or a Proxy/VPN, (the latter in practice causes massive pings). Those options would essentially make the server unplayable for him.

Any thoughts?

Posted by: The Malefic Trout Sep 14 2017, 08:39 AM

I personally am against blocking the entire IP range, solely because I don't want other players to be affected because of him.

By the way, while in theory VPN should cause massive pings - I've tested it myself many times and depending on the chosen server there would often barely be a difference (up to 10-15 ping up if I chose London for example). So we still can't do anything about it.

Edit: we probably shouldn't be giving him these ideas lul

Posted by: Bucket Sep 14 2017, 08:51 AM

I am up for the IP ban, he has broken several of our server rules, tried numerous ways to evade the ban, goes around votekicking people for no apparent reason other than a personal dislike for them, comes up with more bullshit lies and the list goes on. Clearly, he is suffering some form of mental illness which causes his delusional and toxic behaviour. Even if the IP range ban affects other players they can always come to the forum like it has happened when you banned another ranged IP in the UK wink.gif

Posted by: MonkeyFiend Sep 14 2017, 08:58 AM

QUOTE (The Malefic Trout @ Sep 14 2017, 08:39 AM) *
I personally am against blocking the entire IP range, solely because I don't want other players to be affected because of him.

By the way, while in theory VPN should cause massive pings - I've tested it myself many times and depending on the chosen server there would often barely be a difference (up to 10-15 ping up if I chose London for example). So we still can't do anything about it.

Edit: we probably shouldn't be giving him these ideas lul



Just for reference it's a geographic range, so it means blocking all people using that ISP within that city area. Still a bit of a sledgehammer to crack a nut

Regarding the VPN though, it's really easy to block VPN endpoints on the server.

Posted by: Steelshanks Sep 14 2017, 10:02 AM

QUOTE (Kingdom of Steel @ Sep 13 2017, 02:46 PM) *
A word still to your address, Bucket: you are not worthy here as an Admin continue to occur







UNWORTHY BUCKET IS CAST OUT!!!!

Posted by: General Tanz Sep 14 2017, 03:24 PM

Greatings,

For a long time I wonder what is going on with you?
What problems do you see, which lead you to such absurd thought games as "connect via a different ISP or a Proxy / VPN"?
Have I ever caused you problems that concern your server or your players? Never, and that will never happen. I respect your server, the laws of the server and its players.
MonkeyFiend once wrote a spell serves to exclude the player from the server and not the account the latter uses. He could indeed appear with a new account as the same player, which is not desired.
I can assure you, the admins, that the person who used the account "General Tanz" and was banned from you ever since the ban never played on your server again.
This is exactly what happened, according to your laws, to ban the player and not the account alone.
So what do you want?
I wrote the truth to you and did not expect anything in return.
Or, I'm expecting something ....., something "more varied" comments here with less pop-up windows, stupid comics or even insults.
Sometimes I wonder how old one or another commentator is here, or what education he has enjoyed.


I only ask for one, oh ..., now it is already two requests, now I'm almost already greedy.
To judge every guest according to his written performance. And then sentence him if necessary.

Lastly, I would like to thank you for allowing me to continue my modest performance in the forum, and for the attention of the many guests for my sad affair.

Posted by: Jairon Sep 14 2017, 04:33 PM



Posted by: Bucket Sep 14 2017, 04:53 PM

MF, don't forget a forum ban too. biggrin.gif

Posted by: General Tanz Sep 14 2017, 04:54 PM

Greatings Jairon,

Finally a pop-up window that I love, and a, no doubt, historical document bearing my inglorious name. Jairon, my congratulations, you managed to surprise me in a very pleasant way.

Posted by: Bouquet Sep 14 2017, 05:12 PM

QUOTE (General Tanz @ Sep 14 2017, 03:24 PM) *
Have I ever caused you problems that concern your server or your players? Never, and that will never happen. I respect your server, the laws of the server and its players.


Salut, Kingdom of Steel Tanz.

I see you on serveur some time ago. You always insult playeurs and argue!

My cousin le inspecteur Bucket gave me these.








My cousin also says; you also attac teammates!

Ah, oui oui, very respectful playeur!


Je t'embrasse, Bouquet
not to be confused with Bucket, I am way prettier!

Posted by: General Tanz Sep 14 2017, 06:16 PM

Dear Bouquet,

sorry for my question, but can you read and understand letters?

You see clearly "General Tanz(young blood)". I wrote countless times that my account was abused by my girlfriend's young son. Either you are an ignorant or slightly forgetful, or do you just want to do the usual.

And now excuse me.

Posted by: swan123 Sep 17 2017, 11:04 AM

QUOTE (Kingdom of Steel @ Sep 12 2017, 04:52 PM) *
Greatings, Community.

I dont know what happened, the map started and 4 seconds later i got kicked for "Racism"? Please, can anybody explain me this? The map before i use the votekicking system and wrote some replics, but racism....? No, i am sorry but i am confused. How long is my ban and when can i play again on your server?

Thanks.


we all told you to stop acting like a lemon on the server

Posted by: Raven Sep 17 2017, 05:15 PM

In response to 'Kingdom of Steel''s multiple personal messages:

The ban remains permanent.

See all previous replies to this thread and your original offences for the reason.

Posted by: Kingdom of Steel Sep 17 2017, 05:25 PM

Yes, thanks for your answer, Raven.


Posted by: Bucket Sep 17 2017, 05:36 PM

Then this thread can finally be locked!

Posted by: KANE Sep 17 2017, 08:08 PM




Posted by: MonkeyFiend Sep 18 2017, 10:19 AM

So are we just leaving it at this or should I blacklist the IP range to prevent alts and family share accounts?

Posted by: Marsche Sep 18 2017, 01:03 PM

QUOTE (MonkeyFiend @ Sep 18 2017, 11:19 AM) *
So are we just leaving it at this or should I blacklist the IP range to prevent alts and family share accounts?


I mean maybe, for a while atleast. Then we can tell confused innocents that the reason they cannot connect if cause of some weirdo. Or just ban all his alts until he gives up.

Posted by: Bucket Sep 18 2017, 01:39 PM

I doubt he will give up considering how many alt he has and how many lies he tells us. Do bare in mind that this person has been banned 9 times! Nine times! Evades a ban atleast on two different accounts, that we know of. Is a twat on people on the server. Spams admins via PM. This guy has clearly mental issues and he won't stop.

I say a forum ban and the ip range thingy to be done with this twat once and for all.

Posted by: General Tanz Sep 18 2017, 02:33 PM


The same insults(This guy has clearly mental issues) and without an Admin intervenes and bucket back whistles.
Dear MonkeyFiend, I still write here in the forum and have not personally attacked a forum guest, but what I could read here from your administrators, insults without reason and without end to my address.
To say goodbye, your personal insults are a disgrace to the whole level of the forum, bucket.
MonkeyFiend, if those are your administrators then I have lost nothing here.
I have been able to meet ignorans and cowards here, I will not miss you. Undoubtedly this is based on reciprocity.

Posted by: Bucket Sep 18 2017, 02:39 PM



QUOTE (General Tanz @ Sep 18 2017, 03:33 PM) *
The same insults(This guy has clearly mental issues) and without an Admin intervenes and bucket back whistles.
Dear MonkeyFiend, I still write here in the forum and have not personally attacked a forum guest, but what I could read here from your administrators, insults without reason and without end to my address.
To say goodbye, your personal insults are a disgrace to the whole level of the forum, bucket.
MonkeyFiend, if those are your administrators then I have lost nothing here.
I have been able to meet ignorans and cowards here, I will not miss you. Undoubtedly this is based on reciprocity.


Listen here, I am the only one who insulted you, not the other admins. So don't use administrators. You go around votekicking people you don't like etc, then you come here crying about me insulting you? You're little hypocritical bitchboy.

If you do not wish to be insulted, then stop being a total tool, you tool. Also, those insults were directed at Kingdom of Steel, remember your ''friend'' who you met in university of Wurzburg laugh.gif

Posted by: General Tanz Sep 18 2017, 03:36 PM

Good bye to all. Thats the End.

Posted by: Kanzo Sep 18 2017, 05:19 PM

Good bye.

Posted by: The Malefic Trout Sep 18 2017, 06:07 PM

Come on don't let this end this has been the most fun I've had in a month sad.gif

Posted by: Marsche Sep 18 2017, 10:30 PM

QUOTE (General Tanz @ Sep 18 2017, 04:36 PM) *
Good bye to all. Thats the End.


Farewell Tanz, can't say I enjoyed constantly kicking your gfs son. Atleast you're a Manowar fan, which is nice.

Posted by: Bucket Sep 19 2017, 06:44 AM

QUOTE (The Malefic Trout @ Sep 18 2017, 07:07 PM) *
Come on don't let this end this has been the most fun I've had in a month sad.gif


Don't worry. I am pretty sure we will see his other friends, Kingdom of Bronze, Kingdom of Aluminium, Kingdom of Iron, etc.

Posted by: kundalini Sep 19 2017, 09:21 AM

Goodbye kingdom of tanz
I won't miss your racist ass.

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