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Kingdom of Steel
post Sep 12 2017, 04:52 PM
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Greatings, Community.

I dont know what happened, the map started and 4 seconds later i got kicked for "Racism"? Please, can anybody explain me this? The map before i use the votekicking system and wrote some replics, but racism....? No, i am sorry but i am confused. How long is my ban and when can i play again on your server?

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post Sep 12 2017, 06:45 PM
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Hello Kingdom of Steel

It was me that banned you.
A few players reported you for racist language, and I was shown a screenshot.

As it was told to me, you were votekicking anyone Turkish in the server, as well as saying some things like "its full of turkish idiots here".
While I understand it's frustrating if everyone in chat is speaking a language that you don't understand, it doesn't mean it's okay to respond in a racist manner.

One of our main rules clearly says no racism, shown every time upon joining the server.


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post Sep 12 2017, 07:39 PM
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I've been getting reports of you constantly votekicking people you don't like, why is that?
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post Sep 12 2017, 07:45 PM
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jebus, if I vote kicked everyone I didn't like the server would be empty tongue.gif


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post Sep 12 2017, 11:52 PM
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post Sep 13 2017, 07:06 AM
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Greatings, Raven,

I thank you for your quick response and would not like to justify my behavior here. It was a small dispute between kundalini, kronos and myself; Previously, kundalini, probably in jest, wrote a few "Erdogan Spams". This went a bit too far so that the multiple of the players kicked him out after my vote.
There were a few insults to my address on the part of the player "kronos" and that was it. I answered with the unsightly sentence "full of turkish idiots here".
I'm sorry to have written these words and it will not happen again, I promise.
To the accusation of racism: I do not know any hatred for other peoples or skin colors, unfortunately or fortunately, I must confess that all political matters do not matter to me.
But, I am aware that my words could be interpreted as racism in chat, and I would like to apologize for that.
My question, may I hope to play again on your server?

My Identifikation: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198363903286/


Thank you.
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post Sep 13 2017, 08:06 AM
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That avatar is exactly the same as Tanz. Level 0 account, chivalry only game on the account. I'm fairly sure this is Tanz on a smurf account. He has a history of it http://www.sneakymonkeys.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2913, again new account with only chivalry on it.

I reverse google imaged your steam avatar.


And it links me to this website in German,


Funny enough they even had the same name


again the person with the exact same avatar and around the same age and location as Tanz. To further prove my point here is his current steam account http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198052691704/ and he has an avatar of ''Manowar'' the name of the forum tongue.gif

Here is a screenshot in case he changes it



On the German forum it is stated that he lives in Würzburg and on our forum it says he is from Neurenberg. Let's go on Google Maps and see how close those two places are shall we?




You even type exactly the same as him ;

http://www.sneakymonkeys.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=3018
http://www.sneakymonkeys.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2961
http://www.sneakymonkeys.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2913
http://www.sneakymonkeys.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2889
http://www.sneakymonkeys.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=2912



Seem rather a coincidence right? Probably not, Tanz you are truly dumb as shite, you fucking donkey. Lmfao!


MF can you do me a favour and double check it please just to be sure. biggrin.gif



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Wow, what an investigation !

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post Sep 13 2017, 09:53 AM
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Looks like... coolsunglasses.gif ...you get to kick the Bucket.
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post Sep 13 2017, 12:09 PM
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Bucket,

A simple question: Will you ever learn to judge people according to their behavior and, if necessary, condemn them?
I think maybe you will learn this at some point, but one thing I already know what you will never learn, namely, to insult you strange persons. You do not know me and have never seen me, I am a stranger to you; and as far as I remember, I did not trouble you.

"you are truly dumb as shite, you fucking donkey. Lmfao!"

This where your words according to my adress, if an Admin is here i will report this.
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post Sep 13 2017, 12:47 PM
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QUOTE (Kingdom of Steel @ Sep 13 2017, 01:09 PM) *
Bucket, A simple question: Will you ever learn to judge people according to their behavior and, if necessary, condemn them?


Nah.

QUOTE (Kingdom of Steel @ Sep 13 2017, 01:09 PM) *
I think maybe you will learn this at some point, but one thing I already know what you will never learn, namely, to insult you strange persons.


I'm sorry but have we met before? You're making it sound as if we had several of these types of conversations in the past. rolleyes.gif

QUOTE (Kingdom of Steel @ Sep 13 2017, 01:09 PM) *
I am a stranger to you; and as far as I remember, I did not trouble you.


You troubled our players on our servers and broke (some of) our server rules. As admins, we took the necessary actions seeing how I am part of the admin team that would explain my involvement.

QUOTE (Kingdom of Steel @ Sep 13 2017, 01:09 PM) *
"you are truly dumb as shite, you fucking donkey. Lmfao!"


That was directed at Tanz, but since you took it personal one can only assume that I was right and you are Tanz. Congrats you're even more of an idiot than I previously thought.

QUOTE (Kingdom of Steel @ Sep 13 2017, 01:09 PM) *
if an Admin is here i will report this.











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post Sep 13 2017, 01:10 PM
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QUOTE (Kingdom of Steel @ Sep 13 2017, 01:09 PM) *
I think maybe you will learn this at some point, but one thing I already know what you will never learn, namely, to insult you strange persons.


QUOTE (Raven @ Sep 12 2017, 07:45 PM) *
As it was told to me, you were votekicking anyone Turkish in the server, as well as saying some things like "its full of turkish idiots here".


Oh boy.

That's pretty hypocritical of you.


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post Sep 13 2017, 01:15 PM
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Careful Trout, he will report you to an

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post Sep 13 2017, 02:46 PM
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A word still to your address, Bucket: you are not worthy here as an Admin continue to occur. I will explain my point of view to Monkey Fiend and ask him to curtail your competencies as an administrator.
I'm not "Tanz"; we have been friends since our time together at the University of Würzburg.
And, Bucket, I do not expect any further statements from you here at my address, no doubt you will not meet this expectation as usual.
I wrote to "Raven" and asked her for an opinion, that's ALL.
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post Sep 13 2017, 02:51 PM
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The Malefic Trout,

in contrast to the so-called Admin "Bucket", I have already apologized for my words. I like to do it here and to your address, my words were a shame and I'm sorry.
I have nothing against people from Turkey, I would like to say clearly.
But I think you've already understood me.
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post Sep 13 2017, 04:17 PM
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QUOTE (Kingdom of Steel @ Sep 13 2017, 03:46 PM) *
I'm not "Tanz"


QUOTE (Kingdom of Steel @ Sep 13 2017, 03:46 PM) *
And, Bucket, I do not expect any further statements from you here at my address, no doubt you will not meet this expectation as usual.


You're not Tanz yet you keep referring to things in the past and out of personal experience while a few posts ago you told me that I am a stranger to you.

I am not Bucket, I am Bouquet, his French cousin. Hon hon hon!



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post Sep 13 2017, 08:13 PM
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YOU CANT FIND ME BUCKET!


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post Sep 14 2017, 08:18 AM
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I've chosen not to read the posts after Tanz was ousted. As far as I'm concerned he's still banned, so there's little more to say.

Assuming Tanz with random accounts is becoming a problem, we could just block the entire ipbcc20ec1.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de range. It might however effect a few other users, but would essentially mean Tanz could generate as many family share or alt accounts as he likes but would only be able to connect via a different ISP or a Proxy/VPN, (the latter in practice causes massive pings). Those options would essentially make the server unplayable for him.

Any thoughts?


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post Sep 14 2017, 08:39 AM
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I personally am against blocking the entire IP range, solely because I don't want other players to be affected because of him.

By the way, while in theory VPN should cause massive pings - I've tested it myself many times and depending on the chosen server there would often barely be a difference (up to 10-15 ping up if I chose London for example). So we still can't do anything about it.

Edit: we probably shouldn't be giving him these ideas lul


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