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post Feb 1 2017, 09:57 AM
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Greatings,

I had a line exchange with Sir Robin, which was about the fact that I asked him to start with a new account from the beginning, a degradation in my eyes, which I myself have to be responsible for. He banned "General Tance (young blood)" because of Glitch; I accepted that, but I can add that I did not play that night myself. I created a nine account and a new password, and now I am responsible for my style, alone.

Sir Robin gave me the hope that I could start again, he spelled the spell, and he should also ban me again if I violated the rules.

Well, I was banned, on the grounds I would have wanted to bypass the spell with the new account.

This is unfair and I am convinced not to be responsible for Sir Robin.

I ask for the withdrawal of the spell from my account.

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Thank you, Tanz
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post Feb 1 2017, 10:12 AM
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For the record here is what I said:
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Dear friend,

I accept your decision not to take the spell from my account, I would not ask for mercy, but to start with my new account on your server again from the beginning.


I really don't know what to say to that. I think if you just get a new account and make it known that it is you it will be seen as a ban evasion. So I don't think I can give you anything like an "official" clearance to do that.

On the other hand I've seen players "smurfing" as they call this, and if they behave and don't break the rules I leave them alone.

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post Feb 1 2017, 10:18 AM
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This ban decision done by Xacobo and made by me. I wasn't at the present in game but Xacobo does.

I am sorry Tanz but you had more chances than any other players. as Robin quote he didn't say anything about giving permission to play in server with new account.

There is literally no reason that you wont or you will do the same. Looking for long period of time that you involved ban problems, this decision is done by two admins today.


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post Feb 1 2017, 10:40 AM
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Dear, Porsuk, Sir Robin, Xacobo.

It is true, I've had a few times, not only once, this forum to make out self-borne bans. But, I was always honest with the forum guests and the admins; It was my fault to let the son of my girlfriend play with my account, he was too young for Chivalry and I too careless.

But, I already wrote that I changed my password and so nobody has access to my account. From the day before.

Do I ask too much, if I ask for the chance to start again from the beginning? I lose my rank, my game progress ...., the friends of my account.

I think I have never deceived anyone in the forum and the game itself, so I ask for mercy and for the chance of probation.
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post Feb 1 2017, 11:16 AM
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QUOTE (Tanz @ Feb 1 2017, 11:40 AM) *
It was my fault to let the son of my girlfriend play with my account, he was too young for Chivalry and I too careless.


You let him do this for another 10 times with the same annoying process of appealing and unbanning?

No, fuck off. It's over, your chances are since long gone. Accept it, and make sure your retarded "son" knows what he have done.
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post Feb 1 2017, 11:35 AM
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You already had more than enough chances, now that the ban is permanent you suddenly realise you needed to take the necessary precautions, bit too late for that now mate. Take whatever is left of your dignity and be gone, don't pester us with the same old shit over and over again.



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post Feb 1 2017, 11:39 AM
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Marsche,

Chivalry is just a game and your server is just a game server. Over the years, I have seen some unpleasant things on your server, from pesky to hateful racism. Certainly you have banished the individuals, at least those who have known you. That was and is good.
The son of my girlfriend used unfair and illicit means, but he never offended anyone.
I hope that you will excuse yourself for your unsympathetic word choice "retarded". Retarded means in your language as well as in mine an insult.
I do not think there are such serious shortcomings on the part of the boy that make such an insult necessary.

Always with a smile..., Marsche. We never had problems, i have you in good memory and would like that to remain so.

Greatings, Tanz
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post Feb 1 2017, 11:45 AM
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Hello!

This 8th time the ban is mine.

I think you had more chances than any other player, 7 I think. Since the first time, back in december 2015, you already had problems with your girlfriend's son and your account. That is more than a year, I think you had enough time to fix this situation.

Sorry, but this time (again) the ban is permanent.
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post Feb 1 2017, 11:58 AM
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Hello, xacobo,

What kind of honor is given to my person to review the entire statements concerning the banning process here. Well, I did not know I was already at the 8th time. However, there will be no 9th time. I guess this is not because you will not let me play on your server, but I hope that there will not be a 9th time because I will get a chance again and this 9th time will never be claimed by me .

Friends, we are here among us, not before a court or a shooting command. Are my shortcomings really so serious, so that a last chance must be excluded?
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post Feb 1 2017, 12:10 PM
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Do you seriously not understand that you had way too many chances and there won't be a way for you to talk your way out of this one. The ban is permanent. End of story.


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post Feb 1 2017, 12:26 PM
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post Feb 1 2017, 12:29 PM
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Hello, Bucket,

So far we had not the pleasure. You did not introduce yourself to me, who are you?
I had a small exchange with the 3 gentlemen, I think 3 administrators are sufficient for my concerns. A fourth is hardly needed, but nice to meet you. Furthermore, I believe that the Forum is quite capable of dealing with such conflicts, to refer to your words: don't pester us with the same old shit over and over again.

I also love a quiet church in prayer, but in a forum I love the communication, the concern, sometimes the conflict ... etc
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post Feb 1 2017, 01:23 PM
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That won't change the fact that you are now permabanned. I also had the pleasure to ban you once or even more. I can't agree more with my fellow friends here. It's high time you get that damn permaban.
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post Feb 1 2017, 01:34 PM
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When a ban is made, it is against a user rather than a specific steam login.

From an administrative perspective, making a ban to prevent a person playing on the server then having them quickly circumvent this is frustrating to say the least and defies the purpose of a ban: to prevent them playing on the server.

@Robin: This is still over to you to decide whether any of the arguments made warrant any change. If the ban stands, I can add the IP range (wuerzburg vodafone de) to the netID banlist to prevent Tanz connecting using additional steam accounts and prevent future forum registrations.



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post Feb 1 2017, 01:54 PM
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Dear MonkeyFiend,

thanks for your reply.

I would like to inform you that it will not be necessary to ban my IP, I will neither bother the forum with my presence nor the server, if I am not wanted there. I am very saddened by the impression that I have left in the forum, as a petitioner is a thing, but as an undesirable person to have to face another. I myself wrote to Sir Robin and asked him to give me this last chance of reparation.
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post Feb 1 2017, 03:01 PM
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QUOTE (MonkeyFiend @ Feb 1 2017, 03:34 PM) *
@Robin: This is still over to you to decide whether any of the arguments made warrant any change. If the ban stands, I can add the IP range (wuerzburg vodafone de) to the netID banlist to prevent Tanz connecting using additional steam accounts and prevent future forum registrations.

For me the ban stays.

I hope we don't need to exclude the whole IP range.
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post Feb 1 2017, 03:05 PM
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Tanz, I know you yourself are a good guy, but it's your account and your responsibility and you just got too many second chances, way too many, to the point I feel it's highly insulting and unfair to players who didn't even get a single second chance.


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post Feb 1 2017, 03:25 PM
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Greatings,


And what does that mean? That I can never play again on your server just because the boy with my account made some glitches and spawnkills over the years? I have never offended anyone, either racially or otherwise.
Besides, I am ready to accept the ban; All I ask is to start from the beginning. I did not do those things that led to the spell, of course I take the responsibility and give my account, with the rank, the game progress, etc.

With all respect, I think after all these years, I can also ask for something that concerns myself, and not someone who played with my account.
I ask for it and am willing to give up everything just to start all over again.
I understand your concerns, but on the other hand, hard-heartedness is not a virtue, especially since it is merely a game.

Sir Robin, we've been neighbors, I come from the same geographical corner, and I thought we were more than just neighbors.
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post Feb 2 2017, 10:55 AM
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You had your chances, you said it yourself, your account, your responsibility. Be an adult about it and accept the fact that you could've taken the necessary precautions a long time ago. There is no point in trying to resolve this because there is nothing to be resolved.

Like I said before you could've changed your password at any given moment, I specifically told you this after we made it clear it was your last chance back then.

Apparently, the message wasn't clear enough for you, now that you're aware that you won't talk your way out of this, you're trying to come up with rather petty excuses when all you had to do is change your password of your steam account and keep it for yourself.

Yes, it is merely a game, but you're playing on our server with our rules and our rules are pretty clear and straight forward. Anyone not able to play by these rules will be dealt promptly with. As such in your case.

Your efforts of trying to get unbanned by forms of guilt tripping the admins, shifting the blame to others etc will not work now or later.

Besides I believe the last time and the time before that, aaaaaand the time before that you said the same old shit about you wanting another chance and this wouldn't be like the last time. Making me come to the conclusion that you're a troll and a liar. And if you're not a troll or a liar by some holy biblical divine intervention chance then fuck my ass and call me charlie.

Consequences will never be the same!


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post Feb 2 2017, 12:55 PM
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Greatings, Bucket,


These lines you have addressed to my address are very clear and, if I can add, true. I missed my last chance granted to you by you and did not change my password, even though I did not violate your rules myself, that does not alter the fact that I am responsible. Just as you described it, I remember you gave me one last chance and I did not use it negligently.
Now to ask for a new opportunity to play on your server seems to be unbelievable, inconsistent and almost funny.
So I can interpret your last lines, with all seriousness they compelled me a smile.
I thank you, Bucket, both for your openness as well as for it with some humor the seriousness of the situation a bit cheer up.

Best regards, Tanz
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