Little bit of a Controversial Subject - BC2 Options

[HYPOBOXER]

Right time to annoy the fanboys on here, but I have to say...BC2 is a bit crap!

I understand all the nostalgia associated with the old Battlefield 2 days but BC2 comes nowhere near. Its buggy, unbalanced, a massive system hog full of cheating bastards (how exactly does someone get to lvl33 in the few weeks its been available). The M60 is overpowered and far to accurate which means that everyone uses it. You ironsite someone from 4 feet away using the decent assualt rifles and constantly miss (and no its not a lag issue thats sorted), the knife should be removed as its about as consistant as sunshine in Scotland. And the maps are dull as fuck. At least the BF2 maps had some scale. There are no tactics involved. Run here, run here run here. Fuck all teamwork as well.

Oh yeah and where is the fun factor. It actually made me do something that I can proudly say I have never done before. Ragequit. Played with Fox, Magiks and the R6 lot last night and it was fuckin awful. Spawn, M60 death, spawn M60 death, spawn M60 death, knife death, M60 death. Theres absolutely no chance of leveling up characters like the medic at the moment because you cant stay alive long enough to actually get any points. And Im pretty sure opening fire on someone 10 feet away with a pkm should pretty much kill them straight away.

Ill keep playing it for now as there is bugger all else about. If they actually balance the game it might get interesting but as soon as something more interesting arrives its purely to kill time.

Thing I dont get is all the hate that most people here poured onto L4D2 for not being original enough, then they constantly spodge all over this when is just a consolised version of BF2. Wow you can blow up buildings which is great until everyone bitches about Rush games being screwed because of this exact issue. Take that gimmick away and you are left with an average game that brings absolutely nothing new to the table.

And its doing absolutely nothing for this clan except a small minority. Half cant even run it without a major upgrade. And those that are playing it dont seem to stay in games long enough as there is always some reason to complain and leave.

Phew that feels better.

[K.]

Hmmm a well thought out post there H

and i have to agree with a lot of what you have said, but i think your major gripes are with the balance issues and not the game itself (i'll go over the horribly high needed specs for this game later)

Yes the M60 his OP infact there are prob about 10+ threads on the EA forums stating that exact fact, and tbh a lot of the guns are unbalanced, maybe thats the problem with trying to model guns accurately (tbh i have no idea of real guns) a better gun is simply that A better Gun!

so everyone runs around with the m60 if your a medic, a m16 if ur assault (not that you ever shoot with it due to the one hit killing power of the GL and so on for each class

if you do want to level up your medic class then, here are some tips till you attain the golden grail that is the m60
stay close to your squad(or rather make sure your squad sticks together somewhat) focus your medic abilities to healing and reviving while offering light support from your T88 (its prob the second best medigun and very useful if used properly)

Always think Cover!!!! try to reduce your time spent out in the open, find cover check the coast is clear, then move and never in a straight line to your objective, always zig zag cover to cover so you dont become predictable

System Req's for this game are horrible....End of!!! i'm on a c2d 3.00 + 4gig ram and a 4890 and tbh its fucking shite....... SP is awesome i can run it at 1900-1200 with all high and still get 30fps

i play multi on 1200-800 everything LOW and can only get about 30fps if i'm on a server with less than 20players max, i just read somewhere that basically i need a Quad for this game as thats the recommended requirements............ffs

but all that said and done i find it very rewarding it's gr8 when the squad works for each other, people remembering to switch kits and dance about the field capping points, i just wish EA would sort out a lot of the niggles like slow loading times , maybe optimise the code so my c2d can run the game properly on a 32 man server, and maybe nerf a few of the guns so everyone might run around without the usual suspects m60/m16/1911

[Magik6]

I can easily see how people can get annoyed with this game, I'm very prone to it myself. The thing with relating it to bf2 (for me anyway) is that when I started playing bf2 it was out for 2 years already so many bugs had been fixed and patches released, with bc2 I'm having to see the game go through the initial stages of bugs which has been frustrating. I agree that the M60 is over powered and its something I do relate back to the bf2 days when people had the attitude of not using the g36e because it was way too good (like a silent gentlemen's agreement) and I even got ripped on for using the L85 to the end, but for people to then go and take the most powerful gun in the game and forget all the morals and opinions they're going against kind of fucks me off.

I'm sorry to hear that you aren't enjoying the game as much as the rest of us, even though it may not seem like we enjoy it a whole lot because of all the bitching and moaning we do but I think the game could be still great once they attend to a few issues.

I think the reason I hate l4d so much is just the elongated scripted maps which always end up being played the same way (i.e. ''smoker get there and pull them off that ledge............again'') and the fact that once you joined a game everyone felt everyone else was obligated to stay for the entire game because the loss of one person makes a difference. On bc2 I can think ''fuck it, I'll got straight to flag C and not flag B'' its much more dependent on how you play the game in deciding where you focus your attack or if you decide to defend, and I can leave without its making a huge difference to gameplay for either team.

p.s. I don't think the m16 is that overpowered, more people use the xm8 because it has the same damage and pretty much the same rate of fire but its full auto which people like more, so why don't people consider that overpowered?

[HYPOBOXER]

I agree with the L4D comment. It was constantly spoiled long maps and by people bugging out.

I think I can put my lack of accuracy down to crap choice in mice. The Saitek one i have is a bit awkward and the copperhead was not much better. Might stick in my old Microsoft one and see if that helps.

M60..hmmm. I could not figure out how people wher capping me from half the map away. Then fox gave me a quick lesson and it made sense. You effectivly use it like a sniper rifle and single tap shots. Great since its a support weapon and burst set. Hopefully it will be set like the M16 and have a minimum burst capacity at some point.

K..since the medic has bugger all at level 1 (PKM and Pistol) it makes it impossible to level as you cannot support people until you unlock the Medpack. Im sure it will improve once that open up. Its just impossible scoring more than 150 points per match. And destructable terrain negates hiding, especially if someone is mullering you with a tank or apc or noobtube (guilty) constantly. Plus the splash damage from a HE round is screwed. If you hide behind decent cover the splash damage still gets you.

[Magik5]

the issue with bitching about the most powerful gun is that once it gets nerfed, people will start bitching about the 2nd most powerful gun, and then if that gets nerfed they will bitch about the 3rd, and then the 4th etc until the only honour thats left is not using any gun at all.

As for the bf2 vs bc2 weapons thing, ive said many times before that the bf2 unlocks offered no real advantage over the stock guns, whereas with bc2 you prettty much have to have an unlock to win any kinda of one on one hence the perspective changes.

as for the levels thing, im level 31 already....

L4d2 was just a longer more boring version of l4d where youd spend ages getting through a level to an event in which you would get systematically wiped out at the same point everytime (if not sooner). it wasnt fun, it more of a contest on who could withstand ragequtting the longest. I think i personally just got bored of the L4D franchise as playing it for well over a year just meant there was nothing new i could expect or want from it.

[K.]

there is another way hypo and your gonna like this one ))

go medic, run after 5 or 6 and support as best you can with crappy pkm or pistol then "pick up someone elses kit"!!!! <3

they are lying around everywhere and once you look at them closely you can tell the type of gun easily
anyway thats not the point, the point is no MATTER what class you start as, the points earned during that life, no matter what other kits you swop to, are still only applied to the original class first chosen

ie. Go medic, Pick up assault kit, GL loads of people drop ammo etc etc , and let the points earned go to leveling up your medic class until you get better medic stuff ie the "60"

also if you don't want your copperhead hypo i'll gladly give it a new home

i had one b4 and loved it, until ofc my LMB wore out

the steelseries one i'm using now is pretty awesome too, i love the adjusting the dpi on the fly and the driverless capabilities of this mouse

[HYPOBOXER]

Oh right, I assumed that if you where medic and picked up assualt kit your points went to Assault. Cool ill be looting body tonight then.

[MonkeyFiend]

The game is indeed buggy and poorly polished. However the game that held my attention for the longest period was BF2 (or possibly the original UT) and BF2 was also flawed in many ways, a lot of this was fixed and balance and bugs addressed, although for me that game was eventually killed by the nubtard hackers.

I think L4D was technically very good, but it became the same not because of just a few maps, but because the objective was always get from A-B ansd survive, through narrow maps where you are guided from A-B. There's little strategy in it other than teams co-ordinating attacks and using decent communications. Every game in that was about set pieces.. "what's that!? A smoker on the hospital rooftop? well I never" it's situations like this that become tedious for me.

To highlight this we played 1 single map on BF2 for over 2 years and can honestly say every game was different. This was a result of mroe open maps, differing teamwork, and the outcome of the game down to 32 players rather than 8.

Don't get me wrong, there's a lot to hate in BC2.. I kind of see it as a technology dry-run for using the frostbite engine on the PC and the actual game we'll want to be playing is BF3 when its released. However in itself it's still not a half bad game once you get used to the quirks and is still better than most things out there at the moment