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Silence
post Mar 27 2010, 08:19 PM
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Hi guys, Oldliner Silence here, I have your server in my favourites and have seen a few of you guys around. Thought I would pop by and say thanks and great job on your server.

I feel kinda guilty though, after all I have been meaning to do this for a while, yet I was prompted today through more selfish reasons, I was playing this afternoon and over the course of around 3 hours watched 5 people banned by "punkbuster"? automatically on your server. I first found your server as we both have servers with multiplay.co.uk. So my question was, what plugin /addon are you using to detect these cheats, as I have never seen PB ban anyone.

I noticed recently some more PB settings on the clanforge interface, are you using one of these, or something total uniuqe?

Anyway great job guys, love the server, and thanks in advance for your responses

If you ever feel like beating the shite outta old people, www.oldliners.co.uk are looking for relaxed friendlys smile.gif
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MonkeyFiend
post Mar 27 2010, 09:04 PM
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Hi,

Welcome to the site.... firstly my response depends on how nerdy you want to go biggrin.gif

The plugins on clanforge are perfectly fine, however there's some tweaks you might want.

Stock PB without modification will ban players on the server, upload specific bans to Evenbalance and enforce other bans from evenbalance - these types of ban tend to be the more serious e.g. hacks that interfere with PB operation. Will call these type 1. Essentialy these are global bans.

Next PB will ban for specific other hacks, aimbots and the like. However the player will then be banned from only your server and free to join other servers. Will call these Type 2

The next step is ban streaming, where bans made on your server are uploaded to a common database.. most commonly Pbbans.com and Punksbusted. So any of the type 2 bans above that you have get centrally stored and that player will be banned on any other servers that participate in this type of streaming. Likewise a player banned for a type 2 hack on another streaming server will be banned on yours.

Additionally some players may be manually added to the PsB and pbbans streaming ban list with other proof - commonly Punkbuster screenshots taken in game.

I personally prefer Pbbans over all the other ban site (with PsB coming in second) - it's worth creating and account at pbbans, adding your server there and getting to know some of the guys (they tend to check you out on your intiial application). It also gives you access to the pbbans hub, where the ban management hub can interact with your server e.g. providing an in-game message about a player banned for aimbotting (like you saw on ours smile.gif) or greetings for specific players etc.,

That should cover you for most eventualities smile.gif


thx,

MonkeyFiend



P.S. a much more advanced option using md5tool checks - most hacks interfere with files or add new files into the game. MD5 tools are a function of punkbuster that allows checking the integrity of a file based on it's hash value (a vlaue calculated from the file itself) - any modification to the file changes this hash value. Hence if everyone is playing with the same files on BC2 the hashes should all be the same, if someone joins a server and their BC2.exe file has a different hash, then it means the file has been modified: likely that they're up to no good. It also works for the presnence of certain known bad files.. an example as below:

pb_sv_md5tool w "" v "Crosshair version 3.exe" SZ0 AT4096 LEN32 NOT_FOUND

or for modified legit files:

pb_sv_md5tool a "1.1.2965-797.0" v CoreDLL.dll SZ1191346 AT0 LEN2048 BB24F4AFCE65EB0F9225B3724E7EE23E

This is a much more advanced topic and would probably be best discussed off the public boards if you're interested in this specific area smile.gif


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Silence
post Mar 28 2010, 09:21 AM
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Thank you, I love to go geeky, it makes me feel slightly clever than I am.. Well actually tieing my own shoe laces makes me feel slighlty cleverer than I am, Slipon's FTW smile.gif

Anyway the advice is good, most of the messages your server displayed involved mdltool violations, but so many more than I have ever seen before, so I assume now it's your association with PBbans along with you obvious knowledge. PBBANS is where I will start, It is as much being seen to act to keep the "old codgers" from moaning than catching hackers, so hopefully that will help them feel secure until the nurse brings their warm milk.

Many thanks for taking the time to respond in such a complete manor, look forward to seeing you in game all safe in the knowledge we are hack free. smile.gif
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post Mar 28 2010, 11:13 PM
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Good to see some appreciation!
TYVM!
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Silence
post Mar 29 2010, 04:17 PM
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Some of you guys played in our interclan last night and joined us on TS, hope we didn't overwhelm you with our moaning about vehicles and lame mcon captures.. Was really good to have you guys with us and your all welcome anytime smile.gif
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post Mar 29 2010, 05:04 PM
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It was fun, and you don't need to justify your complaints because we're very much of the same nature tongue.gif fucking hate vehicles myself and was so annoyed with the beta because all people would do is take down mcoms with tanks/c4, makes the game more of a scripted event rather than the team getting the chance to defend the mcoms properly. We also don't allow vehicles to be stolen from opposing team bases on our conquest server so I can imagine that if we were to have a game we would both play with a fair manner.

Look forward to playing with you guys soon smile.gif


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post Mar 29 2010, 06:55 PM
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dammit, i missed out cause i was drunk!!!


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