=FaRT= Clan New Server Options

[=FaRT= skutaboy]

To all our friendly clans, I would just like to inform you that our new server is up and running: IP = 8.9.11.153:16567

Three map rotation currently set for Mashtuur City, Strike at Karkand & Sharqui Peninsula.

It would be cool if you visited us to help it get established.

Thanks,

=FaRT= skutaboy.

[MonkeyFiend]

I've always keen on arguing about anything vigorous debate, but first a caveat emptor: if Fart want this topic closed, that is their prerogative. It's every clans choice whether or not to make info pertaining to bans and appeals publicly accessible, to make final rulings with/without disclosing this on their site. It's certainly not appropriate for them to have to go to third party sites (especially clan sites) to defend their actions. A clan has no obligation to share its operations or decisions publicly, therefore it cannot be considered a form of censure. So let us know.

I must first ask what is your ultimate point behind your site? I doubt you expect to be unbanned, more likely you're seeking retribution of sorts (by having a detrimental effect on their server popularity)

The out of game actions of single person (even one with a website) do not affect a clan and game server, regardless if they are positive or negative. If I read your site and it was an unknown clan targeted I would play on their server and form my own opinions, unless there was unbiased evidence. Likewise if a random person recommended a server, I'd again judge it for myself. Perhaps if a friend whose opinion I trusted warned me of a clan, I'd be more cautious, but the warnings and criticism of an unknown internet user carry as much merit as those emails telling me someone in Nigeria wants to send me a stack of cash The exception is if a clan has a very good/very bad reputation from many independent firsthand sources it would carry weight, but surely if this clan is bad as you say, you'd be better to advise people to go there and see for themselves rather than trying to force your biased opinions on everyone?

I'll choose to ignore all the comments regarding the details of your ban as the sources are not objective or impartial. I'll sum it up as "you joined a server, played in a certain way, got banned by the admins". They say it was a form of stat padding hence breaking the rules, whereas you disagree. The final judgement comes down on the side of those admins though, since they are the ones that have the final say on how their rules should be interpreted as they pay rather substantial sums for the server that you're visiting for free.

I've already covered your mention of censorship initially. Regarding your rather revolutionary toned penultimate paragraph, It's not like you've described an injustice forced upon yourself, such as a stranger on the street punching you in the head - an act where walking away doesn't solve the initial problem and potentially leads to the same happening to others, so warning people or indeed intervention is appropriate.

The reason why walking away is not cowardly in regards to a clan/server is because joining is a voluntary action, you chose to join and it didn't work out, walking away is taking a positive action. If the server really was bad and everyone walked away the server would be empty, it would die and the clan would likely follow. Conversely I don't see setting up a hate site as being courageous

Your scenario is more equivalent to voluntary picking up a nice lady in a bar, (let's call her "Ms. Fart") voluntarily accompanying her back to her house (let's call it "The server") then after a while perhaps doing/saying something she doesn't like, for which she then kicks you out, telling you 'not to come back'. You maybe try to appeal your case the next day, but she's not swayed. Now... Instead of walking away and either reflecting on your actions or just writing her off as being a 'total bitch', your hate website would be the equivalent of erecting signposts outside her house to warn off other potential suitors that she is indeed a bitch while at the same time insisting that she comes out in front of the neighbours (other websites) to justify her throwing you out.

Finally, remember the old adage "there's no such thing as bad publicity"

Guess you might take a while to reply though, I notice your site has mysteriously vanished - those damn interweb hackers can be right bastards