=FaRT= Clan New Server Options

[=FaRT= skutaboy]

To all our friendly clans, I would just like to inform you that our new server is up and running: IP = 8.9.11.153:16567

Three map rotation currently set for Mashtuur City, Strike at Karkand & Sharqui Peninsula.

It would be cool if you visited us to help it get established.

Thanks,

=FaRT= skutaboy.

[quasi_evil]

Monkeyfiend, Thanks for the heads up, I will check with Peer 1 and see if this is a violation of their policy. I doubt that it is as there are plenty of consumer protection sites that publish similar content. What does narp mean?

Maniac, the explanation is simple, JP was the squad leader, we would take Power Plant as a squad, get the tank and then he would go up there. This was his strategy not mine, I did not tell him to do that, I learned it from him. I am sure I did it too when JP was not there, that is why I said usually. Rarely did I play on Fart without JP. Again, if what we were doing was breaking the rules, why not a warning or kick? I answer you questions directly, no how about you do the same? If you say we were not banned for this, why are you even talking about this irrelevant information. Per the rules on the Fart clan website, that would only be a kickable offense. Never did any admin tell us not to do that, and several times there was a Fart member in our squad while this was going on. If Haw8 was banned for hacking with proof, why was he banned, then unbanned, then banned again? Or is that question too top secret and would expose too much confidential hacking catcher info. Did the proof get submitted to PB Bans and is he banned everywhere now? You can try to justify Fart's action all you want, but at the end of the day I believe they are in the wrong.

[maniac]

Monkeyfiend, Thanks for the heads up, I will check with Peer 1 and see if this is a violation of their policy. I doubt that it is as there are plenty of consumer protection sites that publish similar content. What does narp mean?

Maniac, the explanation is simple, JP was the squad leader, we would take Power Plant as a squad, get the tank and then he would go up there. This was his strategy not mine, I did not tell him to do that, I learned it from him. I am sure I did it too when JP was not there, that is why I said usually. Rarely did I play on Fart without JP. Again, if what we were doing was breaking the rules, why not a warning or kick? I answer you questions directly, no how about you do the same? If you say we were not banned for this, why are you even talking about this irrelevant information. Per the rules on the Fart clan website, that would only be a kickable offense. Never did any admin tell us not to do that, and several times there was a Fart member in our squad while this was going on. If Haw8 was banned for hacking with proof, why was he banned, then unbanned, then banned again? Or is that question too top secret and would expose too much confidential hacking catcher info. Did the proof get submitted to PB Bans and is he banned everywhere now? You can try to justify Fart's action all you want, but at the end of the day I believe they are in the wrong.

I'll answer you directly, how should I know why you weren't kicked, warned, or even banned for spawn raping? You know I'm not an admin, so you know I don't know, and as I have said twice now, for all I DO know, they did not even notice you doing it. Why am I talking about spawn raping when it is so "irrelevant", then? Because you yourself are dredging up things not related to your own situation in order to induce doubt, and assassinate Fart's character in order to discredit them, which you hope, ostensibly, will force people to assume that you are right and side with you. I am simply demonstrating that you are willing to break rules in hopes of showing that you are no saint yourself, to use your own medicine(character assassination) against you. How's that for a direct answer? And via the responses I'm getting from you, you are not claiming not to have read the rule, you are not claiming you didn't know, I'm not even sure you're trying to defend yourself at all except you keep saying "why not a warning, why not a warning why not a warning"? Yes, I'm aware that spawn raping is listed as a kickable offense and not bannable until "committed more than once" and yes I realize you are implying that it can't be "committed more than once" until you have received your first warning. It now seems very clear to me that in your mind, you have done nothing wrong until you are presented with a formal warning; and while that was not the answer I expected you to give; I guess you're entitled to your own philosophies. Very well, if that's your explanation of the spawn raping, then fine, I have nothing more to say on the matter.

Lastly, I am not attempting to justify Fart's actions. I'm pretty sure I never actually said anything that had anything to do with expressing an opinion on your ban one way or the other, and I don't intend to; either now or in the future. My goal was simply to do something to get in the way of your character assassination techniques. Hopefully that's a direct enough answer for you, but now that I've made my point, you can continue with your crusade without me.

I must say, though, that I don't think many of these fine =SM= folks will think very highly of someone that doesn't follow rules until they've tested the waters and gotten a warning.

[=R6= Raile]

Yes, I'm aware that spawn raping is listed as a kickable offense and not bannable until "committed more than once" and yes I realize you are implying that it can't be "committed more than once" until you have received your first warning. It now seems very clear to me that in your mind, you have done nothing wrong until you are presented with a formal warning; and while that was not the answer I expected you to give; I guess you're entitled to your own philosophies. Very well, if that's your explanation of the spawn raping, then fine, I have nothing more to say on the matter.

This is why I often think that even bothering with a warning is a waste of time. There are just too many people out there who use their warning as a free pass. Breaking the rules because they know until the warning has been issued, they can get away with it. Only stopping once a real threat (such as a ban) is presented to them. If it's something like spawn raping, or something as globally common a rule as that, their should be no warning given. Anyone being given a warning, is most likely a problem causer anyways, so I say just get rid of them. After all, you pay for the server and they don't! They are just making more work for you......

EDIT - of course when the game first came out I didn't feel this way. But this late in BF2's life, there really isn't any excuse for not knowing server rules (unless they are obscure ones)..