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post Sep 5 2016, 02:40 AM
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Hi there. During a game yesterday, I was running out of spawn along with a few team mates and I stopped for a split second to adjust my volume. Consequently, a team mate behind decided to kick me. Now, I admit I intentionally team attacked the person who kicked me out of the way, ONCE (which he blocked thus losing minimal health) and did not persist in attacking him any further, proceeding to the objective. About 5 seconds later I receive a message informing me that I have a week ban for team killing handed out to me from Zeripper.

Now as I say, I did intentionally hit this team mate and I admit my fault, however a week ban seems a little heavy handed for hitting someone once? So I took to your rules and read over them. It says that bans are handed out for intentionally team killing (depending on severity) and I feel the length of my ban doesn't reflect the severity of the broken rule, and so here are my reasons for asking for the ban to be lifted/reduced in length:

I didn't kill them, I team attacked in retaliation (they were in fact in breach of the rules themselves, unfortunately I didn't catch their name because I didn't think it would escalate so quickly to a ban)

It was one swing, not a prolonged attack, I wasn't out to intentionally team kill them and disrupt the game

This is not an ongoing thing, I always attempt to play the game properly and never intentionally TK, I'm also the first to apologise if I accidentally TK. I'm sure my track record is clean, I have been away from the game for a long time.

I received no warning from admin and have never been warned by an admin on any separate occasions before. No prior kick, simply slapped with a full week ban for something not so severe.

Thanks and I hope this can be resolved! (And sorry for the bland formatting, using phone)
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post Sep 5 2016, 02:51 PM
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Hi,

Let me just start with this. No, I don't warn anymore. As Bucket has said, everyone gets a warning when they join. In a perfect world that wouldn't have to suffice, yet nowadays it just has to.

I used to just kick people for what you've done. But it really feels like trying to empty the see of trolls (not that you're one) with a glass. So as time goes on, I take a bigger and bigger container. Went from a kick to 1hour ban, then 24hrs, now 1 week. I know someday the spirit of Porsuk will be strong in me and I'll permaban on the spot tongue.gif

Not that it has anything to do with you, but last night, I logged on to play, and in the first 10 minutes had to stop and spectate because spawns were a mess, and banned 5 people for teamdamaging/teamkicking. That's a fucking lot in 10 minutes. That's just to show you the scope of our "work". I spectate half the time I spend on the server.

The other reason I don't kick people as of last week, is that they invariably come back and complain, or try to justify themselves, and I get to once again stop playing just to explain what's stated on the welcome screen. When you ban someone for a day or a week, you don't get that tongue.gif . They come to the forum, or add me on steam and we can do the explaining in a more relaxed way, as I'm doing right now.

You may very well feel like it's unfair to get banned a week for losing your cool once. It happens to most once in a while, and I myself have had my fair share of "Oh shit I'm not in the attacking team this time" moments.
I'll agree it is unfair, yet I'd like you and whoever reads this to understand our side of why this server's rules are so strict. This is what makes it the best server, IMO, for players who want to play the game without an asshole kicking them in spawn every time, or fucking maas (pet peeve of mine) who think it's fun to firepot teammates, and on the official servers get away with it every time.

I don't try to analyse situations anymore. I see someone kick/hit a friendly in what cannot be accidental, I ban. It's not how I'd like to do, but it's how I feel I get to get ahead of the number of real douchebags. Your kind of TD is collateral in this.

Just because you came here and were civil, I'll unban you as soon as you provide your steam profile (and what nick you were using at the time).

Remember when you get harassed by another player, just
a ) start a vote
b ) tell an admin (preferably in steam chat so the offender doesn't know he's going to be on the radar) - remember the admin can't take you on your word, best he can do is go spectator and see if any abuse happens from that moment on.
c ) record the action (if you have an nvidia like I do, you can have a shortkey to record up to 10 minutes of PAST gameplay. Served me as no other method have)
d ) if all else fails, just suck it up.

PS : it doesn't really matter if it's TD or TK, and if I wrote one instead of the other it's because it's fucking long to write the explanation in console while hoping I don't get killed, and the number of sentences in memory is too short, so I get the closest one tongue.gif
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