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[SirCornwell]

Good evening gentlemen,

some players might know me, some might not.
I'd like to bring a question on the round table.
I've been recently banned and I wanted to respectfully know the reason. It might refer to a specific situation. Correct me if I am wrong:

On a specific day last week the map "Outpost" was chosen on your server. When a mason placed the last masonic chieftain to the mason spawnpoint (into the house) I switched from aga to mason and tried to kill the chieftain.
The reason is, as you probably know, players feel much sympathy to unbalance the gameplay so I did nothing but fighting for justice. This case happens pretty often so I was encouraged to do something.
To be honest it probably wasn't the best behaviour however is it the right decision to ban someone who's about to bring back balance to the match?
It was in the interest of all Agathians to get a fair match.
Hopefully we can find a solution together. In addition I'm very interested to know who banned me.

Gamename: Sir Cornwell of York
Steam profile: http://steamcommunity.com/id/SirCornwell/
Time: one week ago
Circumstances: see above


Kind regards
Sir Cornwell of York

[FrostBurn]

Hi! Perhaps it was me who banned you. I remember banning people for attacking the chieftain in their own spawn.

Lots of masons were complaining, I spectated and witnesses someone attacking the chieftain.
Which is a team member, albeit just an AI. Attacking it is against the rules.
I honestly didn't know you couldn't actually kill it (but neither did you, right? your intent was to kill it, so that's what we are looking at here).
Also I think that in your swings (if it was indeed you, here I am talking about the one I banned) you accidentally hit another player or two. It is accidental damage but it was caused by recklessly attacking your own chieftain.

What actually bothers me a lot is when people play traitor and go against their team's objective. You ruin the game for 60+ people. It's like when a king suicides a few seconds after their crowning. Bullshit. Just because *you* don't like it, doesn't mean everyone doesn't like it.

It is not true, moreover, that it is impossible to win if Masons put their chiefs in the spawn. It is hard true, that's why Agathians have to rush and kill them before it's too late. If they can't do it, Agathians have only themselves to blame. I always play agatha on that map. Once I managed to kill the chief in the spawn firepotting it to death. And another time I baited it out and he followed me, and someone else came and killed it (I of course was killed shortly after the bait but that was the plan).

I think the ban could be removed if you were repentant and agreed to have fucked up (it wasn't a great offense, after all), but honestly I just see you putting yourself above the law (server rules): you say
"When I do a specific action like this one it's always based on an ethical reason. And therefore I will always remain true to my principles
when I notice that players of a specific faction are fooled."

So for the moment, I think the ban should stay. If only because we got to see this facet of your character, and personally I think we could do without people who think they are batman "doing what they think is right" on our server, regardless of the rules, and never apologize because they were "oh so right and just".

But hey if the other admins think otherwise no problem, I don't have anything personal against you.