Ban appeal (and complaint about an admin) Options

[ssupp]

Hello everyone,

Let me start this by saying I have no ill will towards anyone, but I feel like I should get this out in the open to prevent the death of one of my favorite servers.

It's about a certain admin I've been observing for a couple of weeks now, and his name is Airplane.
This one time I kicked him ONCE because I knew the game was going to be over in a couple of seconds, and he kicked me from that game. When I returned to the game he threatened to ban me for a couple of days if I ever kicked a team mate again. At that point I immediately knew he enjoys asserting his powers over other players, and my suspicions were confirmed last night.

You see, I was using the catapult and another player from my team kept throwing javelins at me. Some other player I didn't know started a votekick against him, so I'm sure it wasn't only me he was harassing. Sadly the votekick failed so I started a vote myself, but it failed as well. So being desperate I asked if any admins could take action instead, but my plead was not heard, so I went back to the catapult. Of course not even a minute later the same player threw a javelin at me AGAIN, so I decided to defend myself. I kicked him into the water and I was immediately banned while the instigator was probably left alone. Was I just banned from that single game? No. Was I banned for one day? No. I am still banned the next day even though I was only protecting myself. And what was his reason? ''We don't deal with trolls like that.'' Really? I'm not allowed to defend myself even though I waited patiently for an Admin to take action? I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he waited for me to defend myself so he could ban me.

So why do I write this wall of text? Because I fear the server will die if players keep getting banned for several days (or permanently) for simple misdemeanors.
Chivalry already doesn't have a huge player base these days, so it might not just be the server he's destroying single-handedly, but the entire game.

Thanks in advance.

[MonkeyFiend]

From my own personal perspective, nothing quite as annoying as having someone be reported, then you drop out of game to spectate and instead of making a nice clean ban, instead have someone (often the reportee) take matters into their own hands and start TKing. You end up without evidence to kick the original player and have to waste even more time.

So to paraphrase:

you report a player
the admin goes to spectate (yes, you weren't told this, but informing a server full of public that an admin is spectating is counter productive; the reported just stop trolling)
Before the admin gathers evidence you take matters into your own hands and attack your teammate
You say you got kicked before kicking the "problem creator" - how do you know what happens after you got kicked? I often get reports of people TKing go spectate then kick everyone involved. The first person to go doesn't see everyone else leaving the game do they?
You say you "never broke any rules to begin with?" - you also intentionally kicked your teammates. This is breaking the rules. At best not understanding the rules. At worst lying.
You make various complaints about admin abuse/unfair use of admin powers. NO. You broke the rules, you got kicked.
Anyone else breaking the rules would be kicked/banned once we see evidence (usually gathered in spectate). We don't inform you of this and you may not be around to see it. Even if you are, public can't see any difference between a player leaving the server, being kicked or being banned.

That being said I think most of the comments from trout and airplane have bene pretty level and explanatory, but you've not really seemed to process them.

Over to airplane then: lift the ban, make temp or permanent and I'll close the thread afterwards.

[Sir Robin (not s...]

From my own personal perspective, nothing quite as annoying as having someone be reported, then you drop out of game to spectate and instead of making a nice clean ban, instead have someone (often the reportee) take matters into their own hands and start TKing. You end up without evidence to kick the original player and have to waste even more time.

So to paraphrase:

you report a player
the admin goes to spectate (yes, you weren't told this, but informing a server full of public that an admin is spectating is counter productive; the reported just stop trolling)
Before the admin gathers evidence you take matters into your own hands and attack your teammate

Can we have this part pinned somewhere? Or even put it in this topic?