Ban appeal |
Ban appeal |
Dec 15 2014, 01:09 PM
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Filthy Peasant Group: Members Posts: 8 Thank(s): 0 Points: 8 Joined: 15-December 14 Member No.: 4,583 |
Hi Sneaky Monkeys,
I was wondering if I could be unbanned for my moment of acting like an idiot the other day. I'll just explain the situation, there was like 5 seconds left til the game finished and I was at spawn, during the last 5 seconds I attacked a couple of people (without killing them). I know it wasn't a wise move to do that, and I'm not saying the admin who banned me was abusing any power, but I feel as if it was an over reaction. I'd like to carry on playing on your server without anymore stupidity (on my part of course) Thanks, Urban II |
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Dec 15 2014, 02:27 PM
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Knight Group: Old Git SM Members Posts: 451 Thank(s): 172 Points: 451 Joined: 28-March 14 From: Gävle, Sweden Member No.: 4,443 |
Do you remember which admin that banned you? It's his/her call whether to unban you, or not.
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Dec 15 2014, 02:53 PM
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Squire Group: Members Posts: 129 Thank(s): 3 Points: 129 Joined: 9-October 13 Member No.: 4,372 |
You really got some SS acronym in your name that's what i forced you to change and now some madness moves ?
Mmmh. Even it's wasn't me who banned you this time . . . Watch out just sayin'. |
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Dec 15 2014, 09:46 PM
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Knight Errant Group: Old Git SM Members Posts: 510 Thank(s): 283 Points: 510 Joined: 3-April 14 Member No.: 4,445 |
I really wish we could check the name of the admin that did the ban.
I usually ban people that do this for 250 hours. But I don't remember the names, as it's always in the last seconds of a map and I do it fast. If it was me, you are forgiven Urban II. But I would like you to understand that we have to be strict with team damage. The game already has a feature to allow you to kill your teammates once the map is over, no need to start early. That said, I'm not sure it was me. |
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Dec 16 2014, 01:17 AM
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Filthy Peasant Group: Members Posts: 8 Thank(s): 0 Points: 8 Joined: 15-December 14 Member No.: 4,583 |
I have no idea who the admin was that banned me, hopefully that admin will view this post
and remember me. Well if it was you AsDeR, thank you for forgiving me lol. I don't think you was online at that moment Dithyrambique lol, I had no idea team damage was IP ban worthy, team killing intentionally, sure. |
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Dec 16 2014, 11:44 AM
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Squire Group: Members Posts: 129 Thank(s): 3 Points: 129 Joined: 9-October 13 Member No.: 4,372 |
Well, it kinda depends on admin online some more nazi than others. Turbomidget is kinda nazi about it so maybe it's him.
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Dec 16 2014, 03:35 PM
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Security and Projects Group: Clan Dogsbody Posts: 4,687 Thank(s): 1098 Points: 2,440 Joined: 31-August 07 From: A Magical Place, with toys in the million, all under one roof Member No.: 1 |
If whoever made the ban doesn't respond soon™, then I'll lift it
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The Following 1 Users Say Thank You to MonkeyFiend For This Useful Post: Urban II |
Dec 16 2014, 04:40 PM
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Knight Errant Group: Members Posts: 605 Thank(s): 68 Points: 605 Joined: 11-February 14 Member No.: 4,430 |
Actually, I don't ban a whole lot of people. I tend to kick very often so I don't have to use the ban hammer as much
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Dec 16 2014, 07:00 PM
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Knight Group: Old Git SM Members Posts: 477 Thank(s): 139 Points: 477 Joined: 8-March 14 From: Finland Member No.: 4,435 |
Pretty sure it wasn't me, haven't banned a whole lot of guys lately.
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Dec 18 2014, 02:42 PM
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Filthy Peasant Group: Members Posts: 8 Thank(s): 0 Points: 8 Joined: 15-December 14 Member No.: 4,583 |
Still no reply, well I appreciate all you other admins letting
me know if it wasn't you lol. |
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Dec 18 2014, 09:56 PM
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Man at arms Group: Members Posts: 172 Thank(s): 9 Points: 172 Joined: 29-July 13 From: Chester Member No.: 4,347 |
thought the name looked familiar:
Zaraki Urban II Dec 11 1:40pm Urban ϟϟ Dec 6 9:12am GAS THE KIKES, RACE WAR NOW Nov 27 6:54pm 88 Nov 20 12:22pm Never forget the 6 gazillion Nov 16 6:01am ☩ Nov 13 9:38am Zyklon B ☩ Nov 5 8:08am Kreuzotter Oct 14 6:35am Meme king xD Oct 8 2:42pm #1 sonic fan [GGF] Sep 5 5:18am 76561198062677350 steam_0:0:51205811 tbh either he actually agrees with his names or he's trying to be edgy. Either way am not lifting this ban -------------------- |
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Dec 18 2014, 10:46 PM
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Knight Errant Group: Members Posts: 605 Thank(s): 68 Points: 605 Joined: 11-February 14 Member No.: 4,430 |
So it was racism, with nice little ss symbols in his name, that caused the ban and not tk'ing. How... fun
Agreeing with Jen. |
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Dec 19 2014, 01:34 AM
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Filthy Peasant Group: Members Posts: 8 Thank(s): 0 Points: 8 Joined: 15-December 14 Member No.: 4,583 |
thought the name looked familiar: Zaraki Urban II Dec 11 1:40pm Urban ϟϟ Dec 6 9:12am GAS THE KIKES, RACE WAR NOW Nov 27 6:54pm 88 Nov 20 12:22pm Never forget the 6 gazillion Nov 16 6:01am ☩ Nov 13 9:38am Zyklon B ☩ Nov 5 8:08am Kreuzotter Oct 14 6:35am Meme king xD Oct 8 2:42pm #1 sonic fan [GGF] Sep 5 5:18am 76561198062677350 steam_0:0:51205811 tbh either he actually agrees with his names or he's trying to be edgy. Either way am not lifting this ban Wow really, you're going to look at something not related to my ban? I was kicked for intentional team damage. |
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Dec 19 2014, 01:52 AM
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Filthy Peasant Group: Members Posts: 8 Thank(s): 0 Points: 8 Joined: 15-December 14 Member No.: 4,583 |
And just to add, my name was changed when it was requested, I never said anything remotely racist in chat either. My
own personal opinions/beliefs etc should not even be relevant here. I was banned for intentional team damage, I am here to appeal intentional team damage, and if you don't want to lift the ban because of that? So be it. |
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Dec 19 2014, 07:49 AM
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Knight Errant Group: Members Posts: 605 Thank(s): 68 Points: 605 Joined: 11-February 14 Member No.: 4,430 |
This is a privately owned server. This means you don't get to play on the SM servers, but we let you play there.
This also means we can keep the ban, no matter how you feel we should look at it. If we find something ban-worthy, we are allowed to keep you banned. Of course, we can always unban you for teamkilling and ban you again for the words Jen posted. |
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Dec 19 2014, 10:14 AM
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Knight Errant Group: Old Git SM Members Posts: 510 Thank(s): 283 Points: 510 Joined: 3-April 14 Member No.: 4,445 |
And just to add, my name was changed when it was requested, I never said anything remotely racist in chat either. My own personal opinions/beliefs etc should not even be relevant here. I was banned for intentional team damage, I am here to appeal intentional team damage, and if you don't want to lift the ban because of that? So be it. "Ebola is a blessing" You said that right before I called you out, yesterday. So, his ban has been lifted already, he was playing today. But Jen is completelly right, we don't care if you behave like a saint while playing, if your name, or steam profile, are related to racism and hate, you are not welcome. It's a no brainer. The question here should be if you should be banned again because of this, something both TornBanner and SneakyMonkeys takes very seriously. |
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Dec 19 2014, 11:55 AM
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Security and Projects Group: Clan Dogsbody Posts: 4,687 Thank(s): 1098 Points: 2,440 Joined: 31-August 07 From: A Magical Place, with toys in the million, all under one roof Member No.: 1 |
There's certainly precedent; bans on the servers aren't necessarily based on activities solely on the server. By nature, they mostly are: racism and TKing usually occurring under observation within the server. However the rules also state some wider bounds such as banning people that have other vac bans or a history of cheating from the likes of psb/pbbans etc., or from account lists gleaned from our insider accounts on murdercheats/AA/187ci etc.
Likewise I've been asked to admin on official servers where people were spouting all manner of abuse, which got them banned on all official servers. However in the case of bans on official servers for abusive behaviour, I do often copy the bans here too. (obv official bans for hacking are added to the global banlist and is filtered to ours) In this specific case, I'll defer to the other admins on whether prior dubious naming history warrants a ban. -------------------- |
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Dec 19 2014, 01:12 PM
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Filthy Peasant Group: Members Posts: 8 Thank(s): 0 Points: 8 Joined: 15-December 14 Member No.: 4,583 |
@TurboMidget
I understand this is a private server and that I'm not entitled to have my ban lifted when I want, thats why I'm appealing. Those words Jen posted were previous names, I never said those in chat. I had no idea previous names would be ban worthy, especially after I changed mine for that very reason. @AsDeR That was on the Carnage server I'm sure. Yeah I did say that, and I stopped immediately, it wasn't racist or directed at anyone in particular. I don't get it, I'm not being racist in chat, I'm not insulting anyone, sure I had those names up but what has that got to do with anything that isn't related to my ban? I changed my name when I was asked so no one would be offended, not that many people would even recognise the sigil used previously. I haven't been intentionally racist on your servers, and I didn't intentionally team kill anyone. Sure I had those names, sure I dealt team damage, as I already explained. @MonkeyFiend Okay I understand, I haven't read all the rules, only the two main ones I see when connecting to the servers. All I'm doing is appealing for the reason I have been banned for, which was intentional team damage, I have no idea why past names are even relevant, although if I am banned for that very reason then fine. I fully understand that just because I appeal it doesn't mean my ban will automatically be lifted, I'm just here to appeal for my current ban. Although it seems like I am outnumbered by a vast amount on whether I should stay banned (and I should expect to stay banned) I am still here to appeal. So thank you for your time, I appreciate the responses. |
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Dec 19 2014, 03:22 PM
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Knight Group: Old Git SM Members Posts: 477 Thank(s): 139 Points: 477 Joined: 8-March 14 From: Finland Member No.: 4,435 |
My sum up:
Urban got banned for intentional TK, now he's appealing for that. Urban was never racist in chat, apart from saying "Ebola is a blessing", that's not racist since it wasn't aimed at any ethnic minority. Of course if he had said, for example: "It's good that ebola is killing all the 'n-word' ", now THAT would've been racist. Then I would be all against lifting the ban, but since the case isn't that... Urban had hateful/racist names, but changed them when was asked. Now he's been accused of being racist only because he had those names, allthough he changed them. Urban never did anything wrong on the official server (?) I actually feel like his ban should be lifted, but it's Jen's call. |
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Dec 19 2014, 06:30 PM
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Knight Errant Group: Members Posts: 605 Thank(s): 68 Points: 605 Joined: 11-February 14 Member No.: 4,430 |
Urban had hateful/racist names, but changed them when was asked. Now he's been accused of being racist only because he had those names, allthough he changed them. Did it also occur that, when asked to change an obviously racist name, he picked one that's even worse? |
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