The Expanse <3

And just like that, the servers were great again

Fixed

Really not sure if this one's mine, but I've been banning near catas a lot, so... My bans are a week long, I probably banned the other dude as well, so all's fair.

Thanks Porsuk

I just adminkick them (with explanation), because usually I'm looking at them, and if I take the time to write a warning I get shot by them and get angry

So I'm writing for the guy since he apparently can't make an account here

"I've got banned from the server for an unknown reason around a week ago, I wasn't even playing at the time of the ban"

SteamID : http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198247676766/

Anyone with access to the logs can find out why he got banned? Thanks

Or maybe you could start following the rules, instead of just dismissing them as too harsh and apparently not applying to your person.
Wasn't my ban, but I think you'll be better off on the official servers. And those on our server who like a grief-free experience will be better off too. You had your chance, and then another one. Begone

It's been 3 days without an answer from whoever banned you, so I'll TRY to lift it when I get online later.

I say try because
1) it depends how you were banned. If it was done through the Chiv UI instead of the console, I don't know how
2) even if it was done with the console, because of special characters I may have trouble.

Anyhow, note this may be a temporary lift. If the admin who banned you comes here and decides your ban stays, it will stay.

EDIT : tried, your ban has most likely been done through the UI, you'll have to wait for Porsuk or MF, sorry

Thanks for giving me the occasion to write it

You should be able to join now

Hi,

Let me just start with this. No, I don't warn anymore. As Bucket has said, everyone gets a warning when they join. In a perfect world that wouldn't have to suffice, yet nowadays it just has to.

I used to just kick people for what you've done. But it really feels like trying to empty the see of trolls (not that you're one) with a glass. So as time goes on, I take a bigger and bigger container. Went from a kick to 1hour ban, then 24hrs, now 1 week. I know someday the spirit of Porsuk will be strong in me and I'll permaban on the spot

Not that it has anything to do with you, but last night, I logged on to play, and in the first 10 minutes had to stop and spectate because spawns were a mess, and banned 5 people for teamdamaging/teamkicking. That's a fucking lot in 10 minutes. That's just to show you the scope of our "work". I spectate half the time I spend on the server.

The other reason I don't kick people as of last week, is that they invariably come back and complain, or try to justify themselves, and I get to once again stop playing just to explain what's stated on the welcome screen. When you ban someone for a day or a week, you don't get that . They come to the forum, or add me on steam and we can do the explaining in a more relaxed way, as I'm doing right now.

You may very well feel like it's unfair to get banned a week for losing your cool once. It happens to most once in a while, and I myself have had my fair share of "Oh shit I'm not in the attacking team this time" moments.
I'll agree it is unfair, yet I'd like you and whoever reads this to understand our side of why this server's rules are so strict. This is what makes it the best server, IMO, for players who want to play the game without an asshole kicking them in spawn every time, or fucking maas (pet peeve of mine) who think it's fun to firepot teammates, and on the official servers get away with it every time.

I don't try to analyse situations anymore. I see someone kick/hit a friendly in what cannot be accidental, I ban. It's not how I'd like to do, but it's how I feel I get to get ahead of the number of real douchebags. Your kind of TD is collateral in this.

Just because you came here and were civil, I'll unban you as soon as you provide your steam profile (and what nick you were using at the time).

Remember when you get harassed by another player, just
a ) start a vote
b ) tell an admin (preferably in steam chat so the offender doesn't know he's going to be on the radar) - remember the admin can't take you on your word, best he can do is go spectator and see if any abuse happens from that moment on.
c ) record the action (if you have an nvidia like I do, you can have a shortkey to record up to 10 minutes of PAST gameplay. Served me as no other method have)
d ) if all else fails, just suck it up.

PS : it doesn't really matter if it's TD or TK, and if I wrote one instead of the other it's because it's fucking long to write the explanation in console while hoping I don't get killed, and the number of sentences in memory is too short, so I get the closest one

Only a foulich inglishman chargez a casttle wiz swords onlee (failed attempt at writing the french accent)

My permaban list is ridiculously short, yet I get all the crazies. So unfair.

That was the plan when I muted you, now I just want you gone.


If you have some interesting views on sexual orientation/abortion/rape/religion or other contentious topics, that's fine, but a game server is not really an appropriate place to be convincing people. Constant prattling on contentious topics unrelated to the game (including spoilers which we generally just ban for) will eventually be taken for what it is 90% of the time - an attempt to troll and get a rise out of people. It'll be dealt with appropriately (probably kicks or bans).
You don't seem able to read that rule, despite my quoting it earlier. I hope the font is more adequate. A game server is a private place, whose rules can go beyond those of free speech laws. We ban racists, we ban people who kick teammates, we can ban people who spam because they disobeyed the aforementioned rule. If there was a rule against it, we could ban people who say they like kittens.

No, you're not the only one spammer. You're not the only person starting contentious topics. Others however, just stop when told to (or kicked out or muted or 24hrs banned ). Because rules and stuff. You've been told time and time again to stop your incessant prattling in game (since this topic started, other admins have told me they also warned you, you can go ahead and call them liars or biased too). You haven't.


I'll ban anyone using a racist term or writing something racist (as is making fun of an entire ethnic group for how some speak), regardless of context. When we permaban people for saying "hey n-word" and its variants, we don't care whether they meant it or not. I don't have to go buy a game and verify if you quoted something out of it.


This is the only part you got right.
But I don't know you, nor do I care about you. I've longed to ban you because you're a troll whom I've witnessed skid the lines for months, leaving a trail of bans. Banning you was like catching one of those maas who firepots the spawn when there's no admin around, and don't get voted out because the damage don't register in their TD percentage. Every fucking time when they finally get caught, they cry foul like you're doing right now. Just feels great.
We have a watchlist for toxic players who we know toy with "the line", we wait for them to cross it. You were on my personal watch list, not because of who the fuck you are, but because you being banned means the server will be a better place for those who actually play the game. So yeah, I was hoping you'd cross the line, and you delivered.

No, I don't hate you per se, and have told you so. I do, however, loathe trolls, and you're one of them.

No, I don't have proof of when I "only" warned you (the mute could be considered one tho), because despite my 20+ years of gaming online and before meeting Raso and you, I've never had to take a screenshot to fend off accusations of abuse. But I'm a quick learner.

I really don't need anymore than I've posted above. The rule concerning spamming the chat with unrelated topics is clear, the mute specifically was to bar you from doing that, and I wrote about it in yellow, couldn't miss it. If you didn't consider that as a warning not to continue when the mute wore off, that's on you. If you've considered your getting unbanned as an indication that I wasn't correct in banning you in banning you in the 1st place, you were wrong again. I accepted mostly because most people who appeal for an unban get one (we believe in 2nd chances), and I didn't want to waste more time on you, as I'm doing right now. Also MF pays for this great server, so as far as I'm concerned, it's his and I'll do whatever he asks of me, butt stuff excluded.

Even without the collateral bans that tipped the scale for me, you fully deserve yours.

You were making fun of a minority's accent, which is racism, plain and simple.



Don't serve that bullshit excuse, your command of the english language is way above average.


Now you're full of shit : "If you have some interesting views on sexual orientation/abortion/rape/religion or other contentious topics, that's fine, but a game server is not really an appropriate place to be convincing people. Constant prattling on contentious topics unrelated to the game (including spoilers which we generally just ban for) will eventually be taken for what it is 90% of the time - an attempt to troll and get a rise out of people. It'll be dealt with appropriately (probably kicks or bans)."
I have warned you time and time again about your choice of subject and broad generalization, especially when it comes to patriotism, which invariably leads to some guy getting comfortable pushing it past the racism rule and getting banned, just like today, less than 24hours after you were unbanned.


After a while, I started counting those bans as your "victims".

I have warned you. I have muted you.

(that was less than 2 weeks ago)

The mute didn't stick, and I have warned you I would permaban you if I read another line of yours again. Later that same day when I got back, you greeted me and got permabanned. There's no way I'll ever believe this wasn't a deliberate troll.

Instead of making an appeal here you went and talked to MF who last night asked me to give you a second chance, I did (ONLY because I didn't know mutes were not permanent) and wagered it wouldn't last long. There you are.

Attack attack attack!

Please link your steam profile, I assume you're Sir Joe from Banano the 1st but can't be sure

It's mine and it stays

Ok, all done.... So here is your innocent kick because I was blocking the way:

Totally blocking the way <= (protip) Click me

It was just a kick and I'm a nice guy (unless I have to take on my sleep time to put together a post on a forum) , so I adminkicked you with the message : did you really not see what was gonna happen?

You got back, and complained, asking me to kick you again

Well, you DID ask.... <= (protip) Click me

So I kicked you again, message : your wish is my command. Which is pretty tongue-in-cheek, considering how tiring drama queens can be.

That's pretty much when you lost your shit and came to try and lie here.

And since you wanted it out here and I knew you'd be polluting the chat with the unfairness of it all, I decided to mute you until such time this matter is resolved, which should be about now. The mute stays, and I'm watching you from now on.

=edited just for you my blind friend=

Good thing is, I also can record retroactively, so I'm putting it together

Tonight is hunt night

But do you do it well?

We need to pin this one as a "how not to appeal for an unban" post.

I like to sneak and steal and murder from afar. But I also cheat, in the sense that if I get a skill high enough, I'll get the perk that goes with it, I don't like the advancement points or whatever bullshit.

So in the end I'm the ultimate killing machine, but I still like to sneak undetected

As for mods, I'm looking for things that add to the immersion, I'm gonna get the one that forces you to make camps and fires and drink and eat for exemple, and the one that adds clothing protection against cold (or are they one and the same? can't remember).

A follower that's not incompetent sounds great tho xD