Bonsoir !

Voila je me suis fait kick il y a meme pas 20 minutes par Asder ( encore une fois ... décidement )

Bon je me fais TK comme d'ab ( la il n'y a aucun kick ) je me combat dans la melee a coté du chariot , en combot , je me retourne je vois un mec je le tappe ( pour moi rouge , mais hélas bleu ) . Par malchance c'etait le mec qui ma TK juste avant , et bien sur asder qui ne doit surement pas m'aimé , etait sur moi en mode slack .

Je n'ai meme pas eu le TEMPS d'écrire desoler , que j'ai etais instant kick ! direct ! et puis voila la raison du kick sérieusement .

Donc je redemande un débann s'il vous plait .

Et pour Asder , je me mélange avec la communauté , il suffit d'etre la le soir quand il y a mikeh , dilthy , bastion , reya etc .

bref , il me semble que je respect la charte tout le temps que je suis sur le serveur , donc pour moi c'est un peu un abus du kick mais bon ... comme on dit les modo/admin on toujours raison .

Nemtos .

I'm the admin who banned him.

Here is my version.
Nemtos was in a melee, a teammate vanguard charged behind him and hitted him while also killing the enemy. (I was spectating the now dead mason)
Nemtos turned back, looked at him, and starteted attacking him. It took him 5 hits to kill him, the other guy did not fight back or defended himself.
I have warned Nemtos before that attacking back teammates that hurt him is NOT the way to deal with it.

I banned him on the spot for obvious intentional TK. And added the reason to the ban. (Something along: "I told you, don't kill teammates that hit you. That's TK" I don't remember the exact reason, but it should appear in the log.)

Then the shoutbox had this conversation:
(Start from below)

(08:28 PM) Nemtos - in the melee ?
(08:28 PM) Nemtos - you will never deceive you in colors with blood?
(08:27 PM) AsDeR - ... sleep.gif It took you 5 hits to kill him. Just refocus how you want to play on SM servers. join the camaraderie, assume people did it not on purpose, etc
(08:26 PM) Nemtos - sad.gif
(08:26 PM) Nemtos - but I know you do not love me
(08:25 PM) Nemtos - this is not a lie asder . but ok .. post smile.gif
(08:21 PM) Nemtos - ok
(08:21 PM) Nemtos - .....
(08:21 PM) Nemtos - it's the truth
(08:21 PM) AsDeR - I'm going to be nice here and tell you. Don't lie, I record the sessions. Cool it down and think about it. Then post on the unban forum.
(08:21 PM) Nemtos - I did not see the name and it was red for me because of the blood
(08:20 PM) Nemtos - instant kick
(08:20 PM) Nemtos - I could not even apologize
(08:19 PM) AsDeR - He was not fighting back either, he vanguardcharged you once and you killed him. You know that's not how you play on SM.
(08:18 PM) Nemtos - Instant kick
(08:18 PM) Nemtos - Lool , look the reason for the TK
(08:18 PM) Nemtos - tk melee seriously
(08:18 PM) AsDeR - It is not the amount. It's the reason. You went out of your way for killing him. Fully on purpose. Knowing that it was not allowed. I have warned you before.
(08:18 PM) Nemtos - blood ... and i dont look the name for the tk ..
(08:18 PM) TurboMidget - But it's the 'again' part that concerns me
(08:18 PM) TurboMidget - One tk is still one too many. It's in the rules. Not just ours, but the game-wide rules
(08:16 PM) Nemtos - again ban just for ONE TK ? !!!
(08:16 PM) Nemtos - ty asder ! you don't like me seriously ?

After reading his unban request, and the chat on the shoutbox, I'm sure he is not sorry at all.
I don't want to be a jerk here, and I have warned Nemtos before about his TD% and hitting back.
I have also warned him that I have this last TK recorded and to not lie about it. Believe it or not, I don't want to permaban Nemtos, but damn he has the wrong attitude.

I'm tired, so I'm going to leave this to someone else. I won't lift the ban, but I won't oppose to other admin lifting it if he believes he deserves it.

If it's up to me and after having read this, the ban stays.

Edit .

I no longer try to justify myself

I have a good attitude on your server, a problem there at 7 months? after no more problem and my attitude is bad ? ... well good night .

" I'm sure he is not sorry at all. " And yes i'm sorry , you do not let my time to apologize .

My translation- correct me if I'm wrong:

Good evening!

today i was kicked not even 20 minutes ago by asder


Well Idid TK (there's no kick) I fought in the melee next to the cart. I turn I see a guy I hit (red for me, but alas blue). As luck it was the guy who just before my TK, and of course ASDER which should certainly not like me, was on me spectator(?) mode.

I have not even had the TIME to write an apology, I Was instantly kicked! Live! and then here is the result of a serious kick.

So I asks a de-ban please.

Asder and I mix with the community, just be the night when he mikeh there, dilthy stronghold, reya etc.

short, it seems to me that I respect the rules all the time I'm on the server, so for me it's a bit of abuse kick but ... like mod / admin they say is always right.

Yea, yo translation is okay Jen

He just said tho " Well I got TKed as usual (but no kick for the guy who did it) [...] By misfortune, it was the guy who tked me just before [..] Asder, who don't like me, was spectating me "

I don't believe in coincidences. Well, not this time anyway.

Why? I would not be here otherwise Turbo . It's the truth ....

But I understand

What's happened in respect of this ban then as a final decision?

I propose : we lift his ban but if there's another fault > permaban.

I'm still going with asder on this one. He made the ban, he can assess it best and his opinion is not to lift it for the time being. Maybe in the future, but not now.

I would say we keep the ban on for ~2 weeks and then lift it. Nemtos has been around and surely he wouldn't do the same "mistakes" again because if he does, we give him 6 months or perma.

Tis up to asder though

(although he did say he didn't mind if another admin wanted to lift it).

I'll leave this to the rest of the SM guys - feel free to uphold the ban, discuss it in a post in members (or a poll) or lift it (seeing asder's previous comments)

I'm onboard for marsche's proposal.

Yeah, 2 weeks sounds quite allright.

Fine by me, I know nemtos has been around a long time without causing too much issue in the past. I would say next time is a 6 month or perma ban though